Singer Macy Gray has said in an uncompromising interview that she doesn’t believe transgender women should be allowed to compete in sports against biological women, where she said: “Just because you go and change your parts doesn’t make you a woman, sorry.”
In an interview on Piers Morgan Uncensored, she admits that people “are going to hate me for saying that,” but “I know that for a fact. If you want me to call you ‘she’ I will do it because you want me to, but just because I call you ‘she’ and just because you’ve had surgery doesn’t make you a woman.”
Morgan said most public figures are too scared to say “what a woman is.” The singer agreed, saying, “I know! … I would say a person with breasts. How about starting there? And a vagina.’
The duo discussed the issue of trans women in sport, while the hostess said, “I support all trans people’s rights to fairness and equality.”
Morgan then added that he doesn’t support transgender people with “physically superior bodies” who beat up women in their sports.
Macy added, “I totally agree…if you want me to call you ‘her,’ I will, because that’s what you want, but that doesn’t make you a woman just because I.” calling you ‘she’ and only because you had surgery.’
‘Changing your parts doesn’t make you a woman’: Macy Gray, 54, made her views on trans issues clear in an unbiased interview with Piers Morgan on Monday
Interview: Piers, 57, then said he believed most public figures were too scared to say “what a woman is”.
She went on to say: “A woman goes through a totally unique experience and surgery, and finding yourself doesn’t change that. Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know? You can’t have this just because you want to be a woman.’
When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticized for her views on trans women, Macy said, “But it’s the truth.”
Adding, “I don’t think you should be called transphobic just because you don’t agree…there’s a lot of judgment and stone throwing at people just for saying what it is, you know what I mean?”.
Criticized: When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticized for her views on trans women, Macy said: “But it’s the truth.”
Controversial: During the unbiased interview, the 54-year-old singer also opened up about her recent controversial comments about the changing of the American flag (pictured earlier this year)
Gray was also questioned by Morgan about the backlash she received for saying the American flag should be changed, and she said she was “excited to bring it.” [the subject] up again’.
The singer insists the flag should reflect “diversity and culture”.
“My idea was to make the stars the colors of all of us. So there would be one star to represent you, one to represent me, one to represent everyone in the room, right. That way you look up to the flag, you feel welcome, you feel included, you feel like you belong.’
Gray claimed “the flag was conceived” and created to reflect what was happening at the time – namely, war.
“It wasn’t something we celebrate, a flag that represents war,” she said.
She added, “It’s not about white people, it’s just different than when Lincoln was president. Whoever designed this flag designed it for this day. I’m just saying what’s wrong with a new flag and what’s wrong with representing where we are now?’
Grey’s comments come after she received backlash for her earlier comments on the flag in June 2021 – claiming it needs to be redesigned to represent all Americans and is currently “ragged, outdated, divisive and wrong”.
Republicans were quick to slam the singer, claiming he symbolized “liberty” and “justice.”
Gray claimed she didn’t expect the backlash and thought people would approve of the idea of a new flag.
Holiday: Piers will have about a month off from his talk TV show later in the summer as the program struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched
The interview with Gray comes after it was reported that Morgan will be taking a month’s hiatus from his show later in the summer as the program struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched.
The former Good Morning Britain star averaged more than 300,000 viewers for his debut episode interviewing former US President Donald Trump on April 25, which aired on Fox Nation in the US.
But since then, viewership has plummeted, with recent episodes garnering around 30,000 viewers.
It has emerged that the presenter will be away from the channel for about four weeks in late summer due to a pre-planned vacation and filming commitments for a true crime documentary series he is doing.
For the full interview, see Piers Morgan Uncensored at 8pm on TalkTV, which also airs on Fox Nation in the US